Better Ring Light Portraits: OnSet ep. 223

Better Ring Light Portraits: OnSet ep. 223


Join Daniel Norton OnSet as he discusses best practices when making portraits using a ring light. Ring lights come and go in popularity and have a unique look that draws many to add one to their kit. But after the trendy catch light shot, what can we use the ring light for? The answer is a fill light. Because of the nature of the ring, it makes an excellent on axis fill and in this video, Daniel will show you how to mix the ring wis convention softbox to create a beautiful Ring Light portrait.

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39 responses to “Better Ring Light Portraits: OnSet ep. 223”

  1. @mbokoking7720 Avatar
    @mbokoking7720

    Bonjour svp si je réalise un shooting avec un iPhone 11 Pro et un ring litgh Max le rendu d’oseraie t’il jolie

  2. @screensanctum Avatar
    @screensanctum

    I used this technique with only a ring light. I do not own a flash. is the flash what is preventing the glare on her face? my GF gets huge glare on her cheeks.

  3. @nikolaytodorov3566 Avatar
    @nikolaytodorov3566

    First time seeing you. The way you talk makes it so easy to understand. Congrats!

  4. @roseoflove888 Avatar
    @roseoflove888

    Was looking up ring light for selfies … 🤳 found this shows we need a professional cam guy 🙂 the lady has a beautiful smile …grt video ty

  5. @xpy1 Avatar
    @xpy1

    But wouldn’t You say that the brighter one with no shadow was better if your going for actors headshots

  6. @TheAssez Avatar
    @TheAssez

    Thank you. 🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹🌹

  7. @michaelmartinez6899 Avatar
    @michaelmartinez6899

    Hi. What software do you use to view the photo on your laptop immediately after taking it?

  8. @yahmanml Avatar
    @yahmanml

    What size toolbox is that?

  9. @nicolewilson3886 Avatar
    @nicolewilson3886

    The ring light reflection in the eyes is so bad. Zombie eyes!

  10. @Eyeamsurreal Avatar
    @Eyeamsurreal

    Thank you both very much. This video has given me much to consider as I move closer to portrait photography. Well done!

  11. @marcomark8 Avatar
    @marcomark8

    DUDE! You gotta keep the cursor off the face. It seems like it is closer to the camera and really stands out. my eye is so drawn to it that I can't pay attention. I just keep waiting for you to move it. Amateur move too. And you have great content.

  12. @dvushka Avatar
    @dvushka

    She still looks prettied in person than in photograph in my opinion…

  13. @AnshiAneeshPandyala Avatar
    @AnshiAneeshPandyala

    Very informative video

  14. @matbroomfield Avatar
    @matbroomfield

    Hmmm, I find the artificial eye ring a bit cliche. Is there something a bit less obvious?

  15. @simonmarktaylorphotography Avatar
    @simonmarktaylorphotography

    Thank you Daniel. Really enjoyed this video and found it very useful, especially how well you explain the settings and how they effect each light source. It's strange how people criticise the fact that you are using a ring light! Hahhah. I would say to those people that 1) the tutorial is about taking better shots with this type of light 2) not everyone has the same personal taste , this is why photography is so interesting. People have preferences for sure, but these are professional, well thought out and executed shots. Thanks again !

  16. @keonij1228 Avatar
    @keonij1228

    This video would have been super useful except you mumbled too much. Please speak more clearly😢

  17. @mojommilahmed6342 Avatar
    @mojommilahmed6342

    Nice vedo

  18. @Sparks52 Avatar
    @Sparks52

    The lighting from the ring light is still too flat even though it's the fill, and the tiny circle catch lights in the eyes looks hideous. I'd rather use a combination of a large(r) softbox for the Paramount lighting and a circular disk reflector from below for a little fill to reduce contrast without it looking clam shell – size and position are the secret. Add a very low power kicker with modest diffusion on the same stand below the key light for catch lights if the softbox isn't creating them. Easy to clamp a small very low power kicker light with a modest diffuser to the stand – and that's only if it's needed for them. Ditch the ring light portraiture. It's for macros and forensic pathology photography of dead people and their body parts by medical examiners and coroners.

  19. @derryk1 Avatar
    @derryk1

    She is a little cutie real cute. I always see with actors, their head shots are done with some sort of either ring light or beauty dish that is more straight on front shot. Giving their black and white images a very flat often blown out look. This is common I imagine for those types of head shots but is it the norm? Perhaps creating a more neutral look for the actor so as not to type cast themselves to casting directors with mood lighting thus hampering their chances to land a particular role.

  20. @claud9999 Avatar
    @claud9999

    Excellent tutorial, as always. Nice illustration of the "selfie tilt" that is a plague that needs to be destroyed. Daniel steps in, gently, and the difference in the pose is amazing! (tilt @ 6:14, "corrected post" @ 6:30.)

  21. @barkyvonschnauzer2188 Avatar
    @barkyvonschnauzer2188

    Big Fan of Daniels, and love his lessons

  22. @marktomphotography Avatar
    @marktomphotography

    Random, off-topic question for you, what do you use to organize and archive your files? I'm guessing back in the day you used to use Lightroom, but now with Capture One being the standard, at least for tethering, how do catalog (pun?) all your images?

  23. @HEREONOUTBAILEY Avatar
    @HEREONOUTBAILEY

    Dude, you’re talking way too fast!

  24. @tinderbox218 Avatar
    @tinderbox218

    Love ringlight fill, hate its distracting Twilight vampire catchlight. Mo' retouching mo' bettah. Too bad for video though.

  25. @marktomphotography Avatar
    @marktomphotography

    For a more portable ring flash that will give you that nice halo shadow, this works well: https://www.adorama.com/fplfrf400.html

  26. @Traveljournalist Avatar
    @Traveljournalist

    great video as always! I'd be interested to know why you start at F5.6, is it because it's the aperture that gives the sharpest image ?

  27. @roybixby6135 Avatar
    @roybixby6135

    The catch light in the eyes is really ugly. Thanks for reminding me why I stopped using ringlights…

  28. @ObsidianXXX Avatar
    @ObsidianXXX

    “I hate ring light“ said nobody under the age of 65🙄 Styles change… flat light is popular and so is the circular catch light.

  29. @opwave79 Avatar
    @opwave79

    Excellent as always, Daniel! I don’t personally like the ring-shaped catch lights from beauty rings, but I guess that doesn’t bother many people. I do like how your setup resulted in a much more beautiful beauty shot.

  30. @danbrowning2418 Avatar
    @danbrowning2418

    I like the fill on her face from the ring light but I hate the ringlight reflection in her eyes. It's just personal preference, but I think it makes the subject look like she's having eye surgery.

  31. @k2jwd Avatar
    @k2jwd

    Interesting video. Could you also do one using the Westcott Omega Reflector 360 (40") and compare it with a ring light?

  32. @aramb Avatar
    @aramb

    What about the alien eye reflection from the ring light? Do people find that desirable?

  33. @Valtrach Avatar
    @Valtrach

    Hey Daniel, super interesting video as usual. I still think the catchlight of a ringlight looks strange… Maybe it's just me but that's all I can see in the photo. Thank you for your time and work.

  34. @MikeJamesMedia Avatar
    @MikeJamesMedia

    Thanks, Daniel and Kathryn. I'm not a ring light fan, per se, but regardless, I always enjoy your videos and results.

  35. @jtes1442 Avatar
    @jtes1442

    Dan , can you do a video using ring-flash as fill light ? Thank you

  36. @alexanderpons9246 Avatar
    @alexanderpons9246

    Very nice! Thanks for showing that combo as well as the aperture variation. A while back a friend whose daughter is attending Beauty School shared that at the school they have a ring light like the one you used so when the students finish a project they take few pictures with their phones.

  37. @fmrff70 Avatar
    @fmrff70

    Thanks Daniel! I have a make up artist that only wants to shoot with ring light. Can't wait to share this video with her!

  38. @richrichardson3503 Avatar
    @richrichardson3503

    Quick question: Where can I get the Brooklyn Reflectors merch?

  39. @michaelquelch1023 Avatar
    @michaelquelch1023

    First Comment wow